Chuck Liddell vs. Anderson Silva, Forrest Griffin vs. Wanderlei Silva Possible In December
The UFC’s year-end event is typically the promotion’s most-stacked card of the year and this year should be no exception.
In the headline bout of the December 27th event, UFC 92, “The Ultimate Fighter 8″ coaches, interim heavyweight champion Antonio Rogerio Nogueira and former heavyweight champion Frank Mir, are set to square off for the UFC’s heavyweight title and joining them with co-main event status could be one of three top matchups.
According to NBCSports.com the UFC is likely to sweeten the pot for UFC welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre in an attempt to convince him take on UFC lightweight champion BJ Penn at the December event (as opposed to early-2009). However, if that bout fails to materialize UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva could return to the 205-pound light heavyweight division to take on former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell or newly-crowned light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin could put his title on the line against former PRIDE champion Wanderlei Silva.
“[Anderson Silva vs. Chuck Liddell] has a few obstacles in its path,” said the NBCSports.com report. “Liddell is fighting in September, so assuming he wins, he’d have enough time to recover. But Silva is competing on Oct. 25 against Patrick Cote. He’d have to come out of that match unscathed and take a fight with only two months to prepare against Liddell.”
“Some have suggested Forrest Griffin’s first title defense as a possibility, and the only contender that will be ready by Dec. 27 is Wanderlei Silva, so if Griffin were to defend the belt on that night, it would likely be against the “Axe Murderer”,” the report continued. “Silva, however, seems to be expecting to fight [Quinton] Rampage Jackson.”
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I dont think Iceman vs Spider fight this dec. whoever needs rest maybe both of them.
NO F..ING WAY… IM PUMPED FOR THE SILVA/CHUCK FIGHT BUT DON’T KNOW IF WANDY DESERVES A TITLE SHOT… HES ONLY WON 1 OF HIS LAST 4 FIGHTS… THATS NOT RIGHT… IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY AROUND. WANDY/SILVA AND CHUCK/GRIFFIN
Here’s something I really don’t understand, and I would like someone to explain it to me.
BJ Penn moves from lightweight to welterweight. Why does he automatically get to fight the champion? Doesn’t he have to “prove himself” in that division first?
Anderson Silva moves from middleweight to light-heavyweight. He went through ONE guy before he gets a (rumored) shot at the former light-heavyweight champ?
Wanderlei Silva, although a great fighter, has one 1 of his last 2. And now (rumored) he gets a title shot against Forrest? Are you serious?
It seems as though these guys are sacrificing the rules just for some big names. I don’t get it. Whatever happened to earning your way to the top?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you step up/move down a weight class, you should have to start from the “bottom” of the class just like everyone else before you get the good matches.
WELL SAID JOSH BUT IM JUST AS LOST AS YOU. I DON’T UNDERSTAND EITHER MAN… UFC IS JUST FAVORING THE BIG NAMES… BUT I HONESTLY THINK CHUCK DESERVES A TITLE SHOT BEFORE WANDY… CHUCK HAS NOTHING TO GAIN IN THAT FIGHT WITH ANDERSON…
wow, Wanderlei v Forrest, didnt Wand “train” with Forrest leading up to th Rampage fight? sooo Wand is going to fight his training partner for the Title awesome, hey go Wanderlei
if this is true and Chuck beats Evans i would be a little pissed if i were Chuck (for not getting the title shot) but hey having the oppritunity to fight Anderson Silva isnt half bad either….
i dont know Wand goes 1-1 in the octagon then a title shot? Wanderlei is on of my alltime favorites sooo im not too dissapointed that he might get the shot, also one of my other all time favorites might have to face one the baddest men around in his prime, but if anyone can counter Anderson Silva it just might be Chuck (just dont drop your hand like you did against Rampage) an intriguing story line of rumors is starting to unforld can wait for UFC to make some things official on the Dec card
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN MMA GODS!!!! PLEASE!!!! I don’t expect GSP to fight after what he said and I respect his decision. GSP is in a position to go on a looooooonggggggg win streak and really set up his legacy. Coming back early could throw him off and really change the future of his career.
I love Forrest and wanted to see him successfully defend his title…..but Wandy?!? I’d love to see that match and I feel Wandy will quickly become the UFCs new LHW Champion.
Anderson will knock Chuck the F out. Just like everyone other opponent of Anderson. Anderson throws a punch or kick and his opponent breaks. Anderson’s speed is way too much for Chuck to handle. I also think Anderson does not get nearly enough credit for his strength. Chuck only has his right hand in that match making him a one trick pony.
Could all of this lead us to Silva vs Silva? What a great day in Brazil that would be. It will be great for us MMA fans too but I bet the people of Brazil will be having parties with beer and chips….hot dogs….hamburgers….butty things…etc
These are the fights I want to see. Why complain about A. Silva vs. Liddell? I really want to see that fight.
Josh V - there’s merit in what you are saying but that’s never been the case in professional fighting. Champion boxers regularly jump weight classes to make fights happen. Brock Lesnar had only one mma fight before he got a shot at a former heavyweight champ. Posted rankings might make things more honest but they can still be manipulated to meet the interests of the powers that be. I think Machida and Jackson are the two most desrving of a title shot at light heavyweight but neither will be ready for a December fight if they fight in the Fall. So the show must go on and the guys who are ready will be there and by the sound of the proposed match-ups I don’t think anyone will be disappointed.
Josh,
I totally agree. The reason I don’t care is because of the quality match ups we are being provided. Fights I want to most definitely see. I still think/wonder the same way as you though. On the upside this could lead us to Silva vs Silva for the LHW title. Then Anderson will dominate 2 divisions. That will be ****ty due to the lack of title bouts in each division but these match ups only make the future look better for the LHW division. There are so many matches I want to see, I’d almost be satisfied with a royal rumble.
welcome back YZ good to see that u brought your CAPS back with you….
Joshv, BJ v GSP is simply it has a great story line (between the two fighters) it is a “superfight” both are champs… and it is going to make crazy $$$$$ should BJ have to work his way up ehhh lets be real for a minute.. BJ isnt Josh Burkman, BJ is a legend in the sport of MMA trust me if Chuck Liddell moved up to HW and told Joe Silva he wanted to fight Big Nog, that fight would automatically happen!!!!
MACHIDA DOES NOT DESERVE THE SHOT. RUNNIN A MARATHON DOESN’T GET HIM A CHANCE FOR THE TITLE…
RAMPAGE DEFENITLY DOES NOT DESERVE ONE EITHER… HE LOST FAIR AND SQUARE AND MADE A COMPLETE IDIOT OF HIMSELF AND UFC…. HE NEEDS TO GET SUSPENDED…
BUT IM EXCITED TO SEE A SILVA/CHUCK FIGHT BUT WHEN CHUCK BEATS RASHAD HE DESERVES THE TITLE NOT WANDY HES WON 1 OF HIS LAST 4 AND 1 OUT OF 2 IN UFC. I THINK A SILVA/SILVA FIGHT MAKES MORE SENSE AND THAT IS WAY MORE EXCITING FIGHT. AND FORREST/CHUCK IS A BETTER FIGHT. STUDENT VS COACH
Whatever happened to Loyoto Machida, doesn’t he deserve a title shot before Wanderlei? Liddell will not accept a match against someone who will beat him at this point. Seems like they are grasping at straws to me.
TIMCAT CHUCK HAS NEVER TURNED DOWN A FIGHT AND HE DOESN’T INTEND TO EITHER… GAURENTEE
Nobody should expect for Silva not to fight Griffin just because he ‘doesn’t deserve’ it. We all know that sometimes you put fights together to hopefully lead to other fights. Leading to a Jackson/Wandy fight may be the intent. Or even Wandy/Chuck 2.
Just because a fighter doesn’t deserve it has never meant @!#% to Dana. It’s all about the future and what fights COULD happen. We saw this backfire on him TWICE with Rizzo/Couture. This time I doubt it will backfire. Wandy will destroy Griffin IMO.
What a great day in Brazil that would be. It will be great for us MMA fans too but I bet the people of Brazil will be having parties with beer and chips….hot dogs….hamburgers….butty things…etc
KOuch - Get this, my brother lives in Brazil and he says mma isn’t even on their radar. Unless it’s soccer or Carnival they don’t give a sh*t. It’s about the strangest thing I’ve heard about that country yet.
Yeah but if Cote KO’s Silva then what. Then what are they gonna do as Cote would be the number one middleweight so Silva wouldn’t be as marketable after a loss to an underdog.
Soccer sucks! F Carnival TOO! Now Brazil sucks too!
Marko,
Stop joking around and talk serious MMA. Cote KO Silva? LOLOLOLOL
YZ chuck even admitted he doesn’t want to fight someone who “runs all the time” ( Machida)
That my friend is just a pussah way of making an excuse. Read the Fight magazine, yu will see for you’re self.
I call Bull Sh#T. Silva/Machedia winner should fight for the title after the Liddle/Evans winner fights Forrest in December. Wandy should fight Soduku or Bonner Then fight for the title.
Anderson Silva should fight Okomi in Jan/Feb or the UFC should have an interm belt and have Chuck fight Anderson on the Super Saturday card with Lesner vs Nog for the title
Chuck is gonna be the first to knock out Silva
Yeah, Wandy probably doesn’t deserve this shot yet but I would love to see him pull out some old school axe murderer on Forrest. And I have been waiting so long to see Chuck and Silva…that is the real superfight, forget BJ/GSP.
Go Vitor,
That’s too bad for Chuck. Now Anderson is either going to come in and connect a few strikes making Chuck have flash backs of the Korean War where he definitely was not. Or Anderson is going to counter Chuck faster than a speeding bullet and Chuck is going to have flash backs of his circumcision…..if he was circumsized….I’m not sure to be honest.
Wandy may not deserve it guys but…….He’s Wandy the Axe Murderer….C’mon. Remember this is a business and the UFC is trying to give us the fans great fight cards. There is great drawing power in thse match ups whether they are fair or not and make sense to the public or not.
josh v,
i see what you’re saying, but your reasoning doesn’t make sense. a proven fighter such as a bj penn or an anderson silva should NOT have to “work their way up” if they want to move up a weight class. by saying that, you’re putting someone like anderson silva on the same level as stephan bonnar and that’s outrageous.
in bj penn’s case, it would be like comparing him to tommy speer by saying he has to work his way up. a champion is on a different level from everyone else regardless 20lbs lighter or heavier-silva proved that when he ko’d irvin. top pound-for-pound fighters should be able to challenge each other regardless of weight class. if lower-level fighters don’t like it, then they’ve got to do their job to reach that higher level so they too can be considered as part of that class.
i would rather see chuck vs griffen. how does silva get a shot before chuck
I think Anderson will take Chuck in the 2nd round. Will be a great fight either way. I just hope Anderson trains hard for it.
Merry Christmas Dana White!
Chuck’s fighting style is all about knockout power which Silva has proven time and time again that he can completely dominate that type of fighting style. His previous fights against James Irvin (knockout Power), Chris Leben (knockout power), and soon to be victory over Patrick Cote (knockout power) is proof of that. Chuck Liddell will lose horribly in the first round against Anderson Silva.
Now BJ Pinn v GSP is just a name fight. I don’t see why GSP would even consider fighting BJ because GSP has everything to lose and BJ has everything to gain. GSP has already beat BJ once before so his confidence may be high but BJ is a mean fighter and should not be underestimated.
Wandy has loss 3 out of his last 4 fights and should not be even considered right now for a title shot. Now what UFC may be doing is looking at Wandy’s record as whole which is pretty damn good at 32 – 8. With consideration taken for the fighters that he has faced makes his record better then most. The only Light Heavyweight right now that I can think of that deserves a fight against Forrest is Lyoto Machida. Machida has a record right now of 13 – 0 with a big win over Tito Ortiz. Dana White has done great things for UFC and I don’t think he’ll let us down.
And remember one thing, the UFC is about entertainment and this card is supposed to be the biggest card of the year. Dana White is going to make the necessary changes to make it a good show for us which he has done time and time again.
Now BJ Pinn v GSP is just a name fight. If BJ steps
JOSH SHUT THE **** UP!!! WE AS FIGHT FANS WANT TO SEE THESE FIGHTS. MY ONLY THING IS GSP VS PENN SHOULD BE A SUPERFIGHT, PENN SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO WALK AWAY WITH THE BELT.
Smitty,
We won’t get this whole card (Life isn’t that sweet) and he only would get the belt if he beat him in a title bout so don’t worry-just call the travel agent.
Everyone else,
Annual MMA Frenzy meeting in Vegas 12/27 ok?
Ladies and gentleman this is a sport, but its also entertainment. And they need to make matchups that sell PPV. BJ Penn, is un questionably the best in the LW divison. That and the fact that GSP Penn have history and storyline. Both are different fighter, from their 1st match. Dan Henderson lost to Rampage his 1st fight, can anyone tell me what his 2nd fight was? A title shot against anderson! Names make fights. Randy Couture got a title shot moving up a weight class after getting KO’d twice in a row. So get over it.
With that said they should flip the matches cause Chuck owns a W over wandi. I still wouldn’t mind a Ramapage Rematch if Chuck can’t compete due to how close the fights are. But I think with Rampages pending court issues the UFC doesn’t really want to put him out there just yet.
Smitty,
Hey man, didn’t mean to “offend” you. And, if you noticed, I did not say that any of those fights would not be great fights…I think some of them would be. I’d love to see them just as much as you. I was just asking a question. I hardly think it merits cursing at me.
Kelvin,
You have a very good point. These champion are just that; champions. They are the elite, absolutely. The only case I’d make is that they are champions “in that weight class”. If you want to be the champion in another weight class, that’s a whole different realm, and I just wonder if maybe you should have to have like, say, 3 fights before being considered. That way the water gets tested legitimately. No?
Josh
i feel like im robin in the 1960s batman cuz as soon as i saw this i couldnt stop sayin holy smokes batman!!! there blowin every other new years show out of the water if all these fights happen and as for wandy fightin for the title he did impressivly beat the guy who not only was the last to beat the champ but was the last to beat the man that wandy lost to in chuck so y not make it happen so wandy can ritualisticly rip forrest appart and set up liddel vs wandy 2 or wandy vs rampage for the belt as for chuck vs the spider wow thats gonna b some fireworks but i got the spider winin emphaticly
Haha Josh I wasn’t cursing at you. I didn’t call you any names or anything like that (I’m not one to call people names over the internet). But I’m hella tired of everybody complaining about what could potentialy be one of the greatest fights in MMA history. And if you go through the archives and look at some of the BJ Penn GSP headlines and the comments that follow you can understand why I grow thin with that question. No disrespect to you sir.
omfg this would be awesome! so is this gona happen or is it just possible and ya wandy doesnt deserve a titl shot i think he shoud fight 1 more top guy and if he wins ya he get a title shot and someone would get koed in silva vs liddell. im pulling liddell & Wanderlei if ths gonna happen
I was just reminded by a very good friend of mine that the UFC does not have an official ranking system. We have an emotional ranking system. That kind of cleared it up for me. So that makes it more conceivable for BJ Penn vs. GSP, Silva vs. Wanderlei, or any other combo of elite fighters in different weight classes. I found that very interesting. If the UFC had an official ranking system, then it would not be possible to let Penn/GSP, Liddell/Silva, Silva/Silva, Griffin/Silva, etc… without first going through the rankings. Agree/Disagree?
machida doesnt deserve a title shot unlss he beat thiago and beat maybe rampage or someone in the top.
AGREE ALL THE WAY MAN
To be honest, I cant see either of these fights happening. Liddell and Silva fighting Sep and Oct leaving 2/3 months training for an opponant whos one of the top guys in each division? And thats assuming they both win their upcoming fights. Hmmm…
Secondly, Wandy is 1-1 in UFC. Title shot? Dont think so.
To me it just looks like more media hype and fantasy land journalism over dream fights that, at this point anyway (its August remember), are massively unrealistic.
YOUR ABSOLUTLEY RIGHT… NOW THAT YOU SAID THAT I DON’T SEE THESE FIGHTS HAPPENING EITHER… GOOD POINT
4 fav fighters on 1 card, i cant wait, i think itll be an action packed night
once again josh v,
a 15-20 lb. difference doesn’t make a champion any less dominant (example, randy couture-LHW to LHW, he destroyed the top heavyweights he faced as a champion…anderson silva ko’d the man who beat houston alexander in 8 SECONDS!)
obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but i think you’re concentrating on the actual weight too much. it’s not like anderson is moving all the way down to LW or bj is moving all the way up to HW (what would obviously be ridiculous).
as far as official ranking systems, i think they are overrated. if you look at boxing for example (which has an officail ranking system) floyd mayweather retired the champ undefeated, but i certainly don’t think he was the best. he ducked A LOT of fights…this is why MMA is in my opinion a better and more entertaining sport than boxing. based on who a fighter has fought and how dominant they’ve been in their victories, you can pretty much judge where they rank.
there seem to be a lot of complaints about who does and doesn’t deserve what fights but when it all comes down to it….WE”RE ALL GOING TO ORDER THE PPV ANYWAY!!!
DUDE LAYOFF JOSH. WERE ALL ENTITLED TO OUR OWN OPINION AND I ACTUALLY AGREE PEOPLE DO NEED TO WORK THERE WAY UP FOR A TITLE SHOT. AND WHEN YOU WIN 1 OF YOUR LAST 4 FIGHTS THAT IS HORRIBLE. HE DOESN’T DESERVE FORREST… WE ALL KNOW THAT. IT SHOULD BE A SILVA/SILVA FIGHT INSTEAD OF CHUCK/SILVA… AND CHUCK SHOULD FIGHT FORREST..
Everyone CALM DOWN!!
We’re getting a little ahead of ourselves.
There are two things that have to happen before we start talking about Chuck and Anderson’s next fight. First, Chuck has to beat Rashad Evans. Don’t think it’s gonna happen? Rashad is a tough fighter that is undefeated. Chuck has to wait on Rashad to make a move to counter punch in the classic (lethal) way. I don’t think this one is in the bag for Chuck yet. I don’t even know who I am rooting for yet, I love Chuck but Rashad is from my hometown. I just am hoping for a good, entertaining fight.
On the other hand, Silva has to beat Cote. This is gonna get KOuch’s panties all in a bunch. But you have heard of the whole “puncher’s chance” thing right? (See Matt Serra vs. GSP) Cote has the ability to throw bombs, but Silva is probably the number 4 p4p fighter in the world so the chance Cote could win is not very realistic but is somewhat realistic.
Wandy does not deserve a title shot. He just beat Jardine and Jardine is the Karo Parysian of the 205 lb division, so he deserves some props but he got handled by Chuck this year and if Chuck can win against Evans, that should be the next match-up for Forrest. I think Wandy should have to win another 1 or 2 fights at 205 before we start talking about him in a title shot. Have Wandy fight Machida or Henderson next.
on a lighter note…
does anyone else think the name “Silva” is the Brazillian equivalent of “Jones” or “Smith”?
I look at Rashad and see a poor mans Tito Ortiz. He isn’t a great striker, I can’t think Chuck sprawl is good enough he keeps it standing and hits him until Rashad makes a mistake and leaves himself open. Chuck Liddell winner 2nd round via TKO (strikes)
the winner of thango vs machida should get the next title shot. and i dont think the silva vs chuck should happan
Should be some card Xmas !
I gotta go with Chuck to KO Silva and Wandi to bull rush Forrest and taking the title in record time.
chill out yz,
you’re right…everyone is entitled to their opinion (which I said once or twice in my last post). no one is getting out of hand except for smitty, that is, who’s cursing at josh cuase he doesn’t agree with him. it’s an MMA site to post opinions and raise discussions, not argue and curse at people who don’t share your views…THAT’S TERRORISM!!!!!(j/k)
AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL CAPS, ARE YOU DONG THAT AGAIN?!!!
The fight with Rashad is a candy fight for Liddell. Liddell will come out unscathed. Silva will KO Cote in the 1st and will come out 100% healthy.
Chuck vs A. Silva? Oooooooooooh that would be awesome.
*DOING
what if evens wins. should he get a title shot?
Jardine the Karo Parysian of the 205lb division? Jardine beat both Liddell and the current champ, Jardine has beat way more top guys then Parysian.
Back to the current issue at hand, Yes these fights would be awesome and Dana always has great fights at the end of the year, but the timing wont allow it unless Dana forks a sh*t ton of money to all these fighters for having them fight twice in less than 3 months and both Liddell and Silva walk away from the next fights unscathed. Don’t get your hopes up
Yes Evans gets a title shot if he beats Chuck. he has to. He’s unbeaten, he draw’d Tito, beat Bisping and beating Liddell!? He’d have to get a shot. But he won’t beat Chuck. No way.
Karo’s wins
Ryo Chonan
Josh Burkman
Drew Fickett
Matt Serra
Nick Thompson
Chris Lytle
Nick Diaz
Shonie Carter
Dave Strasser
Jardine’s wins
Kerry Schall
Mike Whitehead
Wilson Gouveia
Forrest Griffin
Chuck Liddell
Not a who’s who, but a pretty solid list for both of them. I meant Jardine is going to be the gate keeper to the division, get past him you’re one of the top fighters. I hope he is more than that, but his inconsistency will be the deciding factor.
Winner of Evans/Liddell = Forrest’s next opponent.
…didn’t they already mention though that Machida/T. Silva winner get a title shot? I’d rather see these guys fight Forrest than Rashad Evans. Although, I’d rather see Chuck/Forrest before Forrest/anyone.
IF MACHIDA PULLS OUT ANOTHER MARATHON WIN I SWEAR ILL RETIRED FROM MMAFRENZY AND ALL MMA… I CAN’T STAND TO SEE SOMEONE RUN AND DO ABSOLUTLY NOTHING AND PULL OUT A WIN AND BE CONSIDERED TOP OF THE DIVISION
Machida ‘does what it takes to win’ fights. Although many find his fights boring, I enjoy watching him. He’s extremely technical and avoids trouble like the plague. I can see why nobody wants to fight him. He dodges you consistently until frustration kicks in and you make a mistake, resulting in a machida victory. Imagine him fighting another completely disciplined fighter. And they both just kept walking arond in circles… I’m sure Joe Silva will avoid that though. Wanderlei vs Machida would be entertaining.
I know a lot of people don’t like Machida but that fight he had against Tito was like watching someone play nicky-nicky-nine-door. Every time Tito tried to respond to getting his bell rung there was nobody there. Machida just vanished - unlike Starnes who did his best to run and run with no attempt to engage Quarry whatsoever. By the way, I’m using Starnes as an example of a true marathoner not a title contender. Roy Jones jr.made his name on out pointing James Toney for the title in the exact same way Machida does.
I think Anderson Silva will be facing his toughest opponent yet if he squares off with Chuck. Chuck has had the win over Wandy and it must have BOOSTED him incredibly. That was a big win, not like the crappy fight with Jardine, who I thought chuck was just a bit cautious of after the loss to Rampage, and therefore didn’t win like he normally would.
I think Chuck vs Forrest makes better sense, and the two Silvas to go toe-to-toe. The night will be as exciting, and will not make chuck face Anderson just yet. He should win over Forrest, then defend against Anderson, THAT would be a good set up. Unless wandy beats Anderson, and then we are blessed with a Chuck vs Wandy 2, for the belt as Chuck will be the champ at that point.
mmmmmmmmm, the possibilities are endless sometimes. Cote is not in my top 5 fighters really, I seriously think he should not be getting a bloody title shot. I just don’t like the guy, sorry.
Rashad, well, I think he will be waking up in 2009 after Chuck KO’s him big style. Chuck needs a powerful, strong, quick KO to get his spark back. I think it will happen.
Machida will get his ass kicked by Thiago, and I shall be sat 7 rows back to witness it aswell !!
nice one .
RYAN MAN YOU NAILED IT… THAT IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL… I JUST NEED TO WORD THINGS BETTER LOL…
i agree wiv YZ first post it should be the other way round, its doesn’t make sence if chuck beats evens he fights forrest for the title, wandi beat jardine so he gets a shot??? i dont think so i will be p*ssed off it that happens, if evens beats chuck then ok chuck vs silva i will be pumped but not if chucks wins his next fight,
This will be the biggest UFC card in history. I still dont know if these fights will happen but however the fights match up it will be the BEST in UFC history.
Imagine:
Forrest vs. Wandy
Penn vs. Florian ????
Chuck vs. Anderson
Rampage vs. Shogun
They could put ME fighting a horsefly in the undercard and it would make history.
Excuse me, I forgot the HW Title bout.
Sportsnet is reporting a Rampage-Wanderlei main even for UFC 91 (November). If that were to happen, guarantee neither of them fight Dec 27th. Perhaps the rumours of Chuck-Forrest have more merit, as everyone knows Rashad will finally lose.
Anderson Silva will definitely be fighting Dec 27th though. You just know it. Perhaps Shogun? Hmmm…
Dude, I am to the point where I don’t know who the hell is fighting in December but it is going to be something special. I mean if the fights live up to the names that are going to be on that card we are in for a tasty treat!
hells yeah… now we just gotta hope that dana doesn’t charge $60 or more (per ppv buy) based on it being the best event - the new years event.
I doubt he will. He’s greedy but he’s not stupid.
All the upcoming ppv’s are awesome cards… good lead up to Dec 27th
ROB ARE YOU SERIOUS… I WOULD LOVE TO SEE RAMPAGE LOSE AGAIN… BUT YOUR RIGHT IF THAT DOES HAPPEN NEITHER WILL FIGHT IN DECEMBER
YZ, yeah man, chuck should kick Rashad’s backside all over. Machida can whistle I think. Thiago should beat him I hope.
Will rampage be in a decent state to fight then ? I mean, nobody know what exactly will happen to him really, and, will he have been mentally focused on the fight what with all the legal crap going on.
I think Wand will beat Rampage if they collide this year.
****, get Chuck against Griffin. Chuck NEEDS to get the belt back and I think, he deserves a shot after Evans. He has waited, and had fights, and even beaten wand in style. Chuck is due a damn title shot. So give it to him after Evans. He’ll be well up for a New years eve ppv event all right. He smashed Tito on a New yrs ppv didn’t he ?
AND DID ANYONE EVER HEAR CHUCK B1TCH ABOUT NOT GETTING A TITLE SHOT… CHUCK IS A CLASS ACT AND DESERVES IT…
Thiago Silva deserves more of a shot than Liddell does and i don’t even think Thiago deserves a shot yet. Give it to Anderson Silva, He’s already a champ and everyone should know that he would dump Forrest in a heartbeat, unless the UFC is waiting for a different champ to take the belt so they could have a more marketable “Super Fight.”
best thing I have heard about chuck in a long time, chuck rules, and WILL, yes WILL, become the champ again.
humph, bloody Rashad, what’s he ? a flippin space saver. His unbeaten record will be sadly shattered by the master, Liddell. so pi** of Evans, you turned down Irvin after Chuck had to pull out. wooosy !
First thing F#%^ Machida!!!! (stop running)
I’m with Josh V on this one
What happen to earning a Title shot?
these cards dont add up? you have to get some wins under your belt befor getting a Title shot
F#%^ Machida!!!!
I would say Machida is earning his shot. he’s got 5 straight victories in the UFC, 6 once he beats Thiago Silva. Victories over Bj Penn, Rich Franklin, Rameau Sokoudjou, and Tito Ortiz.
Whoever says Machida hasn’t earned a title shot clearly hasn’t done their homework. Here’s a list of previous divisional UFC records before the champions finally won their belts:
LW: Bj Penn (1-0)
WW: Georges St. Pierre (9-2)
MW: Anderson Silva (1-0)
LHW: Forrest Griffin (6-2)
HM: Nogueira (1-0)
6-0 is more than deserving of a title shot i’d say…
see everyone dislikes machida but u will see camps make fighters and machida trains at the best one in the world wait when u see him with the ufc light heavyweight belt
when Chuck wins he will get the title shot imo, if Wanderlei v Rampage III happens in november perhaps Rampage will be hanging out of the cage door this time…. for some reason i think Wanderlei will win against him i think ive seen it before not quite sure (UFCfan that was a weak attempt at sarcasim fyi ha)
with Anderson Silva , Shogun Rua, Wanderlei Silva all being ex Chute Boxe members i doubt they would fight each other hell they use to corner each other even tho they have moved om i doubt either of them would battle….
Big Nog v Mir HW title
BJ Penn v GSP WW title
Forrest v Chuck LHW title (provided Chuck wins v Evans)
Rua v Coleman (redemption)
i would put others in there but hey those are my guesses for Dec card (i left out Rampage, Wanderlei because i think Rob said they possibly had been moved up to Nov, i would love to see them fight in Dec, Rampage v Rua, Wanderlei v Bonnar, Coleman v Lesnar )
Machida Will be the next LHW Camp
it just pi$$es me off to see him backing up all the time. I just think he would get more respect if he was the one pressing the pace
This is utter crap!
UFC has all the tools to put together the best card in MMA history. You cant waste this potential on bad match ups.
Main Card
-Forrest Griffin VS. Chuck Liddell
-Antonio Rodrigo Noguera VS. Frank Mir
-Georges St. Pierre VS. BJ Penn
-Wanderlei Silva VS. Ryoto Machida
-Shogun Rua VS. Quintin Jackson
Zero, I love that card. I NEED THAT CARD! I’d pay 100 dollars on PPV to see that…..maybe. Hope Dana doesn’t read this, knowing him he would try and up the price.
This is all media hype! I don’t see these match-ups happening in Dec.
Kouch seriously Cote has a shot, Silva has a very weak chin, if you dont think so watch the lutter fight, the one travis was winning until those cheap elbows. I admit Cote has bad ground game, but in this sport it takes one punch. Remember Diaz vs Lawler, Nick recovered with that lucky shot. Scott Smith vs Pete Sell, Pedro Rizzo vs Josh Barnett 1, all im saying is Cote has as good a chance as anyone because anything can happen. And as for talking serious MMA that i am, plus aren’t you the guy who lost an argument with that SLick guy so you got him banned, very classy of you, NOT!!!
to everyone who’s talking about earning a title shot…i understand what you’re saying but you all need to realize something. a fighter can’t fight EVERY top fighter to get a title shot because who will they defend against once they get the belt? for example, if anderson would’ve fought mate marquardt, patrick cote, hendo, lutter BEFORE he fought franklin, who was he gonna defend it against?
it’s necessary for fighters to skip a few top guys when they get their title shots b/c the guys they’re skipping will likely be the ones they defend it against if they win. by doing this, the ufc has plenty of great fights to come in the future!
VERY WEAK CHIN? HOW DO WE KNOW THAT… WHO HAS TESTED IT FOR REAL…
ZERO THAT CARD SOUND AMAZING… I WISH THAT IS WHAT SANTA GIVES ME FOR CHRISTMAS
OH AND MARKO I GOT SLICKKID BANNED CUZ HE WAS COPYING AND PASTING FUCCING LYRICS ON THE WEBSITE… AND IF HE HAD A WEAK CHIN WHY DIDN’T LUTTER PUT HIM AWAY… THAT SHOWS A GOOD CHIN…
I want to see all three of those fights. Plus Shogun VS Rampage. It’s NYE they need to put on a supercard.
Dude the UFC seriously needs rankings. So many fights that are put together in all weight classes don’t make any sense. SILVA’s my boy but he’s only beat “the dean of mean”, while chuck on the other hand, defeated him and in a couple of weeks will destroy “sugar” rashad evans. Chuck vs Forrest makes more sense, while silva vs rampage would also be kool. Shogun should be given a “gimme” fight to get back on track instead of rampage. And seriously, BJ needs to stop being a pu$$y and defend his title and get off GSP’s jock for a match.
I don’t put it past Penn to win the fight against GSP with a submission from the bottom at the end of the third round - or win by split if it goes the distance.
During the post fight interview he will grab the mic from Joe Rogan and call out Anderson Silva as his next fight.
Silva VS Penn will be next year’s TUF.
I am not a hardcore Penn fan but I love it that he is out there making those fights happen. As a fan of the sport, I love it.
BEAUTIFUL!! Mr Silva (joe) must have been watching the postings because we talked about Anderson verses Chuck! My god what a fight that would be..
I do agree about these not being deserved matchups but I’m with KOuch on this one. I DON’T CARE!!! Silva verses Silva would kick ass as well.
As I have said before, the nature of the match ups being a subjective choice rather than a pre-arranged fixture list means that these fights can happen, and although it may be unfair (by the way life isn’t fair) makes the sport more interesting.
Marko/Slick,
Hello again. I’m not playing that game. I never lost any argument to anyone. When you present facts and base your opinion on factual evidence, there is no being wrong. Why would you bring up that stupid stuff anyway? It was 2-3weeks ago and since Slick has been gone, no one has argued or anything. You do realize I have no power to ban anyone right? That is on Kris. Actually, in all honesty I need to be careful what I say because I think Kris wants to ban me sometimes.
YZ,
I missed that. You have the POWER to ban? I remember those lyrics and it actually was funny just annoying a little too. How do you ban people? We really should get rid of the racist communist Dannyboy…..
NO ITS BECAUSE I COMPLAINED ABOUT IT… SO KRIS LOOKED INTO IT… AND THEN HE HAD GOTTEN BANNED… TRUST IF I HAD THE POWER I WOULD BANN QUITE A FEW PEEPS…
So from what I’m hearing Florian will fight Joe stevenson at UFC91. And BJ will fight Kos at the NYE show. With Penn/GSP coming super bowl saturday.
Zero,
Just remember throwing all those high profile fighters on one card will only make the following cards harder to put together as far as “drawing power.” I know what you’re saying but I am using Affliction’s one hit wonder show as a good/bad example of what happens with a star filled fight card. The fans may end up waiting extra time for fighters to fight again on later cards because the UFC will need to spread the wealth(fighters with draw power) around. On the same note, some fighters may make too early of a comeback. I guess in so many words, don’t put all your eggs in one basket.
YZ,
You would ban me in a heart beat you dirty fox! It’s not my fault Dana never made the midget announcement! Don’t take it out on me!
azn,
Good! I hate KOS so now BJ can F him up! While on topic, I think KOS is the most talented fighter I hate.
AZNSTAR THAT SOUND PRETTY GOOD… I DON’T THINK ITS FAIR FOR BJ TO GET A TITLE SHOT RIGHT AWAY…
DAM YOU KOUCH IT IS YOUR FAULT LOL… NA I WOULDN’T THERE ARE JUST SOME PEOPLE THAT DON’T ANYTHING ABOUT MMA AND THEN COME AND TRY TO TALK SH1T
YZ,
You know as well as I do it is the same 2-4 people using different names. That’s why I said we should just ignore it and not respond. I’m a total hypocrite to that rule though.
FO SHO
one thing i havent heard anyone talk about is james irvin he has always had a glass chin so people saying anderson silva would knock chuck out easy (wouldnt happen) i hope ur not going off the irvin vs silva fight. and switch the fights would be great silva vs silva chuck vs forrest and bj penn he hasnt even defended his tittle cuzz the joe stevenson fight was a fake tittle fight.and he has lost his last 2 welterweight fights to gsp and matt hughes. so shouldnt get tittle shot. i would like to see the wec and ufc merdge and penn fight faber.
ya these fight probaly wont happen but i would like to see these fights anyway
not happening, but I would love to see GSP vs. Penn
maybe the ufc is just trying ot make great fights did anyone ever think of that? and to be honest besides chuck who else is forrest gonna defend the belt against this year? machida has a match coming up with tiago silva and chuck has one aginst rashad, and about bj having to prove himself in the welterwieght division…… he has already fought there in the ufc and beaten matt hughes a future hall of famer…. what more does he have to prove? and if you think about should the chuck and wandy fight even count towards wandys losing record? when you put in a performance like that both of the fighters should get a win. anyone agree?
no if u lose u lose but ya it was a awesome fight and i do want to see these fights i hope these fights happen!
It’s not hard to understand….the UFC has a lot of big names and needs to find time for all the “great fights” we want to see. I know it’s a money game; whatever can bring in the most dollars. The light-heavyweight division is just too stacked, in my humble opinion, to be pulling near-crazy fights out of the hat just for a big payday. Soon we’ll be talking crazy matchups like Silva/Silva, Liddell/GSP and every other great fighter who wants to jump weight classes (Couture/Penn anyone? lol).
My simple point in this is that there needs to be SOME criteria to decide who “gets” to fight who for the title shot. And even Don King would shake his head at a fighter winning one fight and get a title shot.
The only way the UFC could have to enforce a criteria is if the fans started rejecting it (i.e. stopping going to see events and not paying for pay-per-view).
Otherwise they have no reason to enforce a critera; they are a business after all.
Not dissing your point that this should be fair, but the reality is that there would have to be a mass rebellion to cause a new match-up system to be enforced.
.. and that ain’t gonna happen.. the fact that there are 108 comments on this one page already shows that the system they currently have is pretty effective?
Animal,
The system may be effective but it lacks a division for dwarfs and midgets. Prejudice? I don’t know….
ill say it agin bj penn lost his last two fights as a welterweight to (gsp and matt hughes) so why even consider him for welterweight tittle shot.
Okay KOuch first of all im not slick, dumb ass. I JUST HAPPEN TO THINK THAT THE GUY IS HILARIOUS, HELL I THINK HIM HUMILIATING YOU WAS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN ON THIS SITE. YZ IT REALLY DOESN’T SHOCK ME THAT YOU WOULD BAN HIM, AFTER ALL HE MADE YOU LOOK LIKE A **** ONLINE, AND YOU ADMITTING YOU GOT HIM BANNED CONFIRMS MY SUSPICIONS. IF YOU READ HIS LETTER HE SAID LUTTER WAS BEATING SILVA WHICH IS VERY TRUE, HELL SILVA WAS BASICALLY OUT AT THE FIRST ROUND, AND THE ONLY REASON SILVA WON WAS BECAUSE OF ELBOWS WHICH LANDED TO THE BACK OF THE HEAD. COTE COULD CATCH SILVA AND KO HIM. AND THEN ILL MAKE SURE YOU IDIOTS DON’T HEAR THE END OF IT. ****S